I'm talking today about Lot and his two daughters after they leave Sodom and Gomorrah and it's been destroyed (without Lot's wife of course... she didn't listen). They go up to some mountain because they feared a place they went to first called Zoar... for some reason Lot and his two daughters take refuge in a cave. Now they believe the world has come to an end because of the massive destruction that had just taken place (I'm assuming here).
31 And the first-born said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth: 32 come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. 33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the first-born went in, and lay with her father; and he knew not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
Wow! That's intense, I'ld say this is a definate what NOT to do. Now I realize they were living in a cave, but that was because Lot had some issue with Zoar and decided to live in this cave. It was a different time and maybe the men would have killed Lot for his daughters... but how could a daughter, much less both sleep with their own father?
34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the first-born said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. 35 And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the youger arose and lay with him; and he knew not when she lay down, nor when she arose. 36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.
So you get your younger sister to do the same thing to "preserve seed of our father"? As well supposedly Lot never remembers any of this. Also, notice he's made to drink wine that makes him forget, that's for all you christians out there that think wine in the bible wasn't fermented.... well it was. Lot seems to forget everything from both these nights. And even after all this and his two daughters become pregnant Lot never questions why his daughters are pregnant. Every father knows that even if you only have a sheep herder's stick you're going to go find out who has been in your hen house (a bit of an example of the modern day father with a shotgun). Each of his daughters bare a son Moab and Ben-ammi. Poor little mongoloids.
Wednesday, March 30, 2011
Tuesday, March 29, 2011
Genesis 19:4
Next we have the two visitors (angels) that visited Abraham then they go to visit Lot in Sodom... So this story is a little bit more about Lot than Abraham.
4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; 5 and they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men that came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. 6 And Lot went out unto them to the door, and shut the door after him. 7 And he said, I pray you, my brethren, do not so wickedly. 8 Behold now I have two daughters that have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing, for as much as they are come under the shadow of my roof.
Really? You give up your two virgin daughters who are probably in their early teens to the men surrounding your house. I this really something you are suppose to do when two angels come to visit and the your neighbors decide to surround your house? Offer your two daughters to them? Wow definately a "what NOT to do" situation here. Because the angels eventually pull Lot back in the house and "smote" all the men around the house and this blinds them all.
11 And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great, so that they wearied themselves to find the door.
In other words, those two angels needed no help.
Next we will continue in Chapter 19 with the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah and the subsequent incest that goes on between Lot and his two daughters... *gross*.
4 But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; 5 and they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men that came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them. 6 And Lot went out unto them to the door, and shut the door after him. 7 And he said, I pray you, my brethren, do not so wickedly. 8 Behold now I have two daughters that have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing, for as much as they are come under the shadow of my roof.
Really? You give up your two virgin daughters who are probably in their early teens to the men surrounding your house. I this really something you are suppose to do when two angels come to visit and the your neighbors decide to surround your house? Offer your two daughters to them? Wow definately a "what NOT to do" situation here. Because the angels eventually pull Lot back in the house and "smote" all the men around the house and this blinds them all.
11 And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great, so that they wearied themselves to find the door.
In other words, those two angels needed no help.
Next we will continue in Chapter 19 with the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah and the subsequent incest that goes on between Lot and his two daughters... *gross*.
Monday, March 28, 2011
Genesis 16:1
In this chapter Sarai has not been able to bare Abram any children so she gets the bright idea to give him her handmaid as a wife so that she may conceive and produce a son for him.
Genesis 16
1 Now Sarai, Abram's wife, bare him no children: and she had a handmaid, an Egyptian, whose name was Hagar. 2 And Sarai said unto Abram, Behold now, Jehovah hath restrained me from bearing; go in, I pray thee, unto my handmaid; it may be that I shall obtain children by her.
This is Sarai's idea to give her handmaid to Abram and Abram goes along with it. The idea of giving your housekeeper to your husband so that they can have children together is outrageous. Also look at the verse where Sarai believes any children that Hagar has will be Sarai's children, probably because of slave laws and ideas where any child born of a slave are basically the property of the owner??? I guess... she's believes the children will be hers... we continue...
3 And Sarai, Abram's wife, took Hagar the Egyptian, her handmaid, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to Abram her husband to be his wife. 4 And he went in unto Hagar, and she conceived: and when she saw that she had conceived, her mistress was despised in her eyes.
Incredibly Sarai is despised with Hagar??? This is outrageous to me ... Hagar is despised for doing what she's been told to do... there's more.
5 And Sarai said unto Abram, My wrong be upon thee: I gave my handmaid into they bosom; and when she saw that she had conceived, I was despised in her eyes: Jehovah judge between me and thee. 6 But Abram said unto Sarai, Behold, thy maid is in thy hand; do to her that which is good in thine eyes. And Sarai dealt hardly with her, and she fled from her face.
That's a lot to take in... so Sarai is upset about this arrangement that she created to begin with and then she deals with her handmaid "hardly" thus basically running her off. I haven't even begun to talk about Abram's role in this sorted plan yet, but I guess it's time. Abram agreed to this arranged relationship and agreed to even marry this handmaid and of course proceeded to have a child with her as well. So she basically lived with Abram and Sarai and shared their bed, as it were. After this Sarai gets aggravated about the fact the Hagar conceives and subsequently goes to talk to Abram about this... Does Abram give Sarai good advice, does he look to Jehovah for a sound response, the answer of course is, no... Abram proceeds to tell Sarai to deal with her handmaid as she sees fit to. So she does by confronting her about the sorted affair that she, Sarai, set up to begin with. Again this is a resounding... What not to do! - ever.
The next few verses are an interesting read. Hagar goes and basically licks her wounds by a water fountain, an angel comes along and counsels her to go back and submit to her master, Sarai, and that she will have a son that will be called Ishmael. I think the real meat of the story would be more around the handmaid and her endurance during all this... but that's a whole other blog.
Genesis 16
1 Now Sarai, Abram's wife, bare him no children: and she had a handmaid, an Egyptian, whose name was Hagar. 2 And Sarai said unto Abram, Behold now, Jehovah hath restrained me from bearing; go in, I pray thee, unto my handmaid; it may be that I shall obtain children by her.
This is Sarai's idea to give her handmaid to Abram and Abram goes along with it. The idea of giving your housekeeper to your husband so that they can have children together is outrageous. Also look at the verse where Sarai believes any children that Hagar has will be Sarai's children, probably because of slave laws and ideas where any child born of a slave are basically the property of the owner??? I guess... she's believes the children will be hers... we continue...
3 And Sarai, Abram's wife, took Hagar the Egyptian, her handmaid, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan, and gave her to Abram her husband to be his wife. 4 And he went in unto Hagar, and she conceived: and when she saw that she had conceived, her mistress was despised in her eyes.
Incredibly Sarai is despised with Hagar??? This is outrageous to me ... Hagar is despised for doing what she's been told to do... there's more.
5 And Sarai said unto Abram, My wrong be upon thee: I gave my handmaid into they bosom; and when she saw that she had conceived, I was despised in her eyes: Jehovah judge between me and thee. 6 But Abram said unto Sarai, Behold, thy maid is in thy hand; do to her that which is good in thine eyes. And Sarai dealt hardly with her, and she fled from her face.
That's a lot to take in... so Sarai is upset about this arrangement that she created to begin with and then she deals with her handmaid "hardly" thus basically running her off. I haven't even begun to talk about Abram's role in this sorted plan yet, but I guess it's time. Abram agreed to this arranged relationship and agreed to even marry this handmaid and of course proceeded to have a child with her as well. So she basically lived with Abram and Sarai and shared their bed, as it were. After this Sarai gets aggravated about the fact the Hagar conceives and subsequently goes to talk to Abram about this... Does Abram give Sarai good advice, does he look to Jehovah for a sound response, the answer of course is, no... Abram proceeds to tell Sarai to deal with her handmaid as she sees fit to. So she does by confronting her about the sorted affair that she, Sarai, set up to begin with. Again this is a resounding... What not to do! - ever.
The next few verses are an interesting read. Hagar goes and basically licks her wounds by a water fountain, an angel comes along and counsels her to go back and submit to her master, Sarai, and that she will have a son that will be called Ishmael. I think the real meat of the story would be more around the handmaid and her endurance during all this... but that's a whole other blog.
Sunday, March 27, 2011
Genesis 12:11
The following was inspired simply by me reading Genesis as an adult through discerning eyes. It is an opinion and as such should only be treated as one.
I believe the book of Genesis has much to say about a lot of things, but the meat of the text in this book after the creation and then Noah and the Ark is almost entirely about Abraham. I don't particular view the stories of Abraham to be a "what you SHOULD do" text as much as a cautionary tale about what NOT to do.
Genesis 12:11-13 And it came to pass, when he was come near to enter into Egypt, that he said unto Sarai his wife, Behold now, I know that thou art a fair woman to look upon: 12 and it will come to pass when the Egyptians shall see thee, that they will say, This is his wife: and they will kill me, but they will save thee alive. 13 Say, I pray thee, thou art my sister; that it may be well with me for thy sake, and that my soul may live because of thee.
This is the first instance of Abraham in the book of Genesis. He begins by lying about his own wife to save his neck in Egypt... we continue.
14 And it came to pass, that, when Abram was come into Egypt, the Egyptians beheld the woman that she was very fair. 15 And the princes of Pharaoh saw her, and praised her to Pharaoh: and the woman was taken into Pharaoh's house. 16 And he dealt well with Abram for her sake: and he had sheep, and oxen, and he-asses and men-servants, and maid-servants, and she-asses, and camels. 17 And Jehovah plagued Pharaoh and his house with great plagues because of Sarai, Abram's wife. 18 And Pharaoh called Abram, and said, What is this that thou hast done unto me? why didst thou not tell me that she was thy wife? 19 why saidst thou, She is my sister, so that I took her to be my wife? now therefore behold the wife take her, and go thy way.
In other words Abram gave up his wife Sarai to the Pharaoh to be one of his wives... including all the rights of a husband.
Who would do this to their own wife?
I believe the book of Genesis has much to say about a lot of things, but the meat of the text in this book after the creation and then Noah and the Ark is almost entirely about Abraham. I don't particular view the stories of Abraham to be a "what you SHOULD do" text as much as a cautionary tale about what NOT to do.
Genesis 12:11-13 And it came to pass, when he was come near to enter into Egypt, that he said unto Sarai his wife, Behold now, I know that thou art a fair woman to look upon: 12 and it will come to pass when the Egyptians shall see thee, that they will say, This is his wife: and they will kill me, but they will save thee alive. 13 Say, I pray thee, thou art my sister; that it may be well with me for thy sake, and that my soul may live because of thee.
This is the first instance of Abraham in the book of Genesis. He begins by lying about his own wife to save his neck in Egypt... we continue.
14 And it came to pass, that, when Abram was come into Egypt, the Egyptians beheld the woman that she was very fair. 15 And the princes of Pharaoh saw her, and praised her to Pharaoh: and the woman was taken into Pharaoh's house. 16 And he dealt well with Abram for her sake: and he had sheep, and oxen, and he-asses and men-servants, and maid-servants, and she-asses, and camels. 17 And Jehovah plagued Pharaoh and his house with great plagues because of Sarai, Abram's wife. 18 And Pharaoh called Abram, and said, What is this that thou hast done unto me? why didst thou not tell me that she was thy wife? 19 why saidst thou, She is my sister, so that I took her to be my wife? now therefore behold the wife take her, and go thy way.
In other words Abram gave up his wife Sarai to the Pharaoh to be one of his wives... including all the rights of a husband.
Who would do this to their own wife?
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